Curse

Star Gazer · Sep 29, 2008, 12:11 AM // 00:11

what are these "protection" skills you speak of. anywho

lfg 5 ursans +2HBS to go!

Spazzer · Sep 29, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

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Originally Posted by shru

What are you kidding me?
Do you think people gravitate to these builds because they're stupid, slow-to-adapt morons that won't give up ursan habits, or because people generally flock to the best, strongest, most efficient, most innovative builds that truly test their skills as a gamer? Seriously think about it, are you really trying to suggest that any average GW player, hell any average person in the world, is dumbfoundingly stupid?

If you think prot monk is going to outclass a 2nd HB, you're sorely mistaken... But maybe you're the kind of person that would even promote hybrid monk builds as well...
Well let me hit you with a little slice of GW logic here. Look, it's a pretty damn simple concept to grasp, so it's no wonder that the majority of the community has caught on, leaving people like you in the dust. If the red bar isn't going up, then the monk isn't worth his party spot.
There. Done. Simple as that.

Prot monks aren't pushing redbars, so their spot is better off reserved for an HB that can actually show some visable benefits. And if you try to argue with that, you’re arguing with the collective consensus of the GW population, as evident by the current practice of running two HB monks in the norn point farm.

Good troll or best troll?

Hahaha

Daenara · Sep 29, 2008, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

What are you kidding me?
If the red bar isn't going up, then the monk isn't worth his party spot.
There. Done. Simple as that.

Prot monks aren't pushing redbars, so their spot is better off reserved for an HB that can actually show some visable benefits. And if you try to argue with that, you’re arguing with the collective consensus of the GW population, as evident by the current practice of running two HB monks in the norn point farm.

I can't figure out if you're being serious or not.

The reason people use two HB's is because it is easier to pick up someone who can spam GoLE + Heal party on recharge, than someone who can prot effectively. If you're in a PUG, planning on a worst case scenario (ie, a monk who can't prot) it's a FAILSAFE to have them run HB. Not better. Not more effective.

Look, it's been proven so many times that prot>heal that I suggest you go look through some of the earlier posts on the monk forums. It was figured it out long ago... but I am assuming from your comments that you do not monk.

Rothan Celt · Sep 29, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

your right there is no need for 2 Hb monks.

I also like the fact that anyone who have played with Pugs is infact a PuG themselves there are good ones out there >.>

glacialphoenix · Sep 29, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12

No, there's no need for 2 HB monks, and it's also really, really inefficient considering that people don't have the armor + health afforded to them by Ursan anymore.

On the other hand, it had the same attraction as Ursan. Press button, watch health go up! I'll also say that a lot of the people who cannot accept anything but HB probably don't monk much.

Div · Sep 29, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20

shru summed up my arguments. It's clearly more important to visibly see your heals than to actually be useful and effective. It's kinda like how it's more important that I have an uncustomized eternal blade than a customized long sword for my warrior because skins > usefulness.

daze · Sep 29, 2008, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

What are you kidding me?
Do you think people gravitate to these builds because they're stupid, slow-to-adapt morons that won't give up ursan habits,

Yes, precisely. Most of the community would rather mash the keyboard and perform a mediocre job of healing than make a synergistic build that works with itself and may even provide a little utility.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

Seriously think about it, are you really trying to suggest that any average GW player, hell any average person in the world, is dumbfoundingly stupid?

Yep. Pretty much. In my experience on this earth, i have realized that the majority of the earths population is mentally handicapped. And most people cant count the fingers on their own hands. I just prey for natural selection to take these people off the planet.
I decided not to comment on the rest of your post because you are probably have too much to worry about without people giving you a hard time for saying silly things. (like "where is my helmet?" or "who took my drool cloth?")

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Keeping bars from dropping is better than relying on reactions to push them back up. Because spikes happen.

hear hear

Loot Junkie · Sep 29, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

How come shru gets a helmet and a drool cloth and i don't? Damn this game is unfair!

kazjun · Sep 29, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

Eh? You run fine with one monk and Dunkoro. No reason a group should break up just cause of lack of monks...

daze · Sep 29, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45

I thought N/Rt took over the role of monk anyways.

cataphract · Sep 29, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

Seriously think about it, are you really trying to suggest that any average GW player, hell any average person in the world, is dumbfoundingly stupid?

If he were to suggest it, he'd be right.

jackerduud · Sep 29, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38

Screw monks, Weapon of Xinrae N/Rt is how we roll.

Rakim B · Sep 29, 2008, 01:14 PM // 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

Think about who gets payed more (policeman or doctor) and you'll understand who is the most important.
Therefor 2 HB healers > 1 healer/1 prot (like I said before)

I won't bother quoting your first quote, and I didn't want to give into your trolling, but this is a work of genius.

if that isn't grade A trolling I don't know what is

byteme! · Sep 29, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

What are you kidding me?
Do you think people gravitate to these builds because they're stupid, slow-to-adapt morons that won't give up ursan habits, or because people generally flock to the best, strongest, most efficient, most innovative builds that truly test their skills as a gamer? Seriously think about it, are you really trying to suggest that any average GW player, hell any average person in the world, is dumbfoundingly stupid?

If you think prot monk is going to outclass a 2nd HB, you're sorely mistaken... But maybe you're the kind of person that would even promote hybrid monk builds as well...
Well let me hit you with a little slice of GW logic here. Look, it's a pretty damn simple concept to grasp, so it's no wonder that the majority of the community has caught on, leaving people like you in the dust. If the red bar isn't going up, then the monk isn't worth his party spot.
There. Done. Simple as that.

Prot monks aren't pushing redbars, so their spot is better off reserved for an HB that can actually show some visable benefits. And if you try to argue with that, you’re arguing with the collective consensus of the GW population, as evident by the current practice of running two HB monks in the norn point farm.

Why would you want to "heal" damage after the fact the damage is done instead of preventing it in the first place? Isn't being "proactive" better then being "reactive"? During a spike isn't it safer and easier to prevent the damage then it is to react and heal to it? Based on human reflexes, pc power and latency among other things it's often dangerous to wait until you see red bars go down before you react to it. In the case of a spike...your team mate could be dead. You can argue how a good monk can handle it but it still doesn't make your argument anymore intelligent. Common sense speaks volumes. If you had any at all you'll understand what I'm getting at.

zelgadissan · Sep 29, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Divine's posts always make me smile.

There is no need for 2 HB monks. There is no need for 1 HB monk. There is no need for HB in 99.99% of the game and the only reason I'm neglecting the .01% is because I'm sure somebody knows more about the game. Certainly not shru.

Skyy High · Sep 29, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Jesus christ, stop replying to shru, it's painfully obvious he was being sarcastic / trolling for lulz.

Numa Pompilius · Sep 29, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

I've not tried - do heroes run HB bars well? It seems to me that team-healing don't require much in the way of thinking, so unless heroes have issues with these skills they should run it almost as well as a human.

Ate of DK · Sep 29, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52

It's incredible to see that many pugs don't use a prot monk.

Lately I joined a Hell's Precipe team and they had 3 healers. (I saw a Healer's Boon and 2 unyielding aura monks)

When I tanked the opponents with my 605hp warrior I dropped dead really fast. They couldn't hold me. I asked why there was no protmonk.

"Prots get stripped!" the monk answers annoyed while spamming healing breeze and maintaining Healer's Boon...

So yeah... PuG's are just dumb in general. Play to have a good laugh and then finish Hell's precipe yourself with 5 wariors, 1 paragon and Mhenlo and Lina under 30min.

1 Healer and 1 Prot FTW

Krill · Sep 29, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

What are you kidding me?
Do you think people gravitate to these builds because they're stupid, slow-to-adapt morons that won't give up ursan habits

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

...or because people generally flock to the best, strongest, most efficient, most innovative builds that truly test their skills as a gamer?

No.

Not that prot monk is incredibly difficult to play in PvE but seriously, all you do with HB is red bar up. If you find that challenging maybe it's time to go back to something like Uncle Wiggily or Candyland, you know, skill based games.

Damian979 · Sep 29, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

If you think prot monk is going to outclass a 2nd HB, you're sorely mistaken... But maybe you're the kind of person that would even promote hybrid monk builds as well...

Ohhhh man that's some priceless stuff there. Almost spilled my coffee on that one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shru

If the red bar isn't going up, then the monk isn't worth his party spot.
There. Done. Simple as that.

Here's a little slice of logic for you. If the red bars don't go down, they don't need to go back up.